In or around 1800 with the rise of Napolean and the new obsession with all things Rome, women started wearing the thin, white, cotton gowns that we associate with this period. These dresses were much cheaper (although not inexpensive) than the dresses of even 5 years earlier and also much plainer, and with a lot less layers. I wonder, between the thin plain dresses and the rise in popularity of beautiful intricate shawls which is the chicken or the egg. Did women start wearing shawls because they were cold in their "classical" dress? Of course the move toward a "more simplistic" style of dress also has its roots in the Enlightenment.
I gave a talk last week on Fashion in the French Revolution for our local chapter of Nerd Nite and the first thing I said was that if someone studies the history of who wore what when you would end up studying the actual history of the world much more in depth then if you study battles and leaders and the like.
Every time I listen to an episode of this podcast, I feel like that meme of the guy in front of the corkboard with all the pins and red strings, shouting about how everything is connected.
Growing up in the American west, I think of paisley on western shirts and bandannas. I’m curious how paisley went from shawls to western shirts. Were they part a part of the cowboy culture before the hippy culture or the other way around?
I'm a little late to the party, but I really enjoyed this episode. It was the first time that I had made any mental connection between kashmiri shawls and cashmere cloth. I kept waiting for you to explore that connection, but I realized that's not what the episode was about- I would love to know more though. Is this only in my head, or is that another place where colonialism absorbed and copied an ancient craft.
Really enjoyed this episode & now understand why traditional western bandannas always have a paisley motif, something I’ve wondered about for some time. Bandannas are, after all, tiny cotton shawls.
I wonder how Etro fits into all of this, too. They're the only brand I can think of doing paisley at the ultra-luxe $$$$ level. I don't know if that makes me love the brand more for tapping into paisley's elite origins. Or if it just feels out of touch with the communities responsible for popularizing. Either way, this was a fun and informative listen!
Great episode! I really enjoyed the many different people talking about the pattern as a part of their area of expertise but also their personal connection to it!:)
In or around 1800 with the rise of Napolean and the new obsession with all things Rome, women started wearing the thin, white, cotton gowns that we associate with this period. These dresses were much cheaper (although not inexpensive) than the dresses of even 5 years earlier and also much plainer, and with a lot less layers. I wonder, between the thin plain dresses and the rise in popularity of beautiful intricate shawls which is the chicken or the egg. Did women start wearing shawls because they were cold in their "classical" dress? Of course the move toward a "more simplistic" style of dress also has its roots in the Enlightenment.
I gave a talk last week on Fashion in the French Revolution for our local chapter of Nerd Nite and the first thing I said was that if someone studies the history of who wore what when you would end up studying the actual history of the world much more in depth then if you study battles and leaders and the like.
Every time I listen to an episode of this podcast, I feel like that meme of the guy in front of the corkboard with all the pins and red strings, shouting about how everything is connected.
You are so completely right!!!! It's all connected!
Yes, often those thin, white gowns could be nearly see-through, and so the shawl was a way to add option modesty.
Wow you nailed it, great job. Sorry we didn't get into it in this episode (there was soooo much we couldn't get into!)
Growing up in the American west, I think of paisley on western shirts and bandannas. I’m curious how paisley went from shawls to western shirts. Were they part a part of the cowboy culture before the hippy culture or the other way around?
I'm a little late to the party, but I really enjoyed this episode. It was the first time that I had made any mental connection between kashmiri shawls and cashmere cloth. I kept waiting for you to explore that connection, but I realized that's not what the episode was about- I would love to know more though. Is this only in my head, or is that another place where colonialism absorbed and copied an ancient craft.
Really enjoyed this episode & now understand why traditional western bandannas always have a paisley motif, something I’ve wondered about for some time. Bandannas are, after all, tiny cotton shawls.
I wonder how Etro fits into all of this, too. They're the only brand I can think of doing paisley at the ultra-luxe $$$$ level. I don't know if that makes me love the brand more for tapping into paisley's elite origins. Or if it just feels out of touch with the communities responsible for popularizing. Either way, this was a fun and informative listen!
This was so informative and I was so happy to see one of my favorite paintings as the cover art <3
Fantastic episode!!! Thank you for such in depth reporting 💗💗💗
Yesss, I saw the episode description and I was really hoping it was *that* Himanshu. Great work
Great episode! I really enjoyed the many different people talking about the pattern as a part of their area of expertise but also their personal connection to it!:)